Level of English (survey)

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I believe my English is...

Опрос закончился Чт окт 22, 2009 2:25 am

almost zero (I can barely read)
4
6%
somewhat acceptable (I can read and write a bit)
15
24%
not bad (reading/writing is not a big problem though I make mistakes)
21
34%
good (no mistakes or almost)
8
13%
I am cool (reading/writing chemical messages/papers with no help or almost)
14
23%
 
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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Himera » Вт сен 22, 2009 5:59 pm

It's a good idea, but one needs volunteers to find proper topics and to translate them.

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Cherep » Вт сен 22, 2009 7:01 pm

2 Topicstarter

Dude, as you know, some people overestimate their skills.
Other underestimate.
Anyway, my choice is 3d from the top. Even though I did teach American students how to swear in Russian and how to drink Vodka properly

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Serge » Вт сен 22, 2009 7:17 pm

Cherep писал(а):2 Topicstarter

Dude, as you know, some people overestimate their skills.
Other underestimate.
Anyway, my choice is 3d from the top. Even though I did teach American students how to swear in Russian and how to drink Vodka properly
anyway >70% think to belong to top 3 levels which is promising
although we appreciate diversity in our company being conservative we cannot accept any unexpected efforts to reach one's cbrtkm

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение ИСН » Вт сен 22, 2009 8:12 pm

Serge писал(а):What do you think?
First and foremost, we have to find a way to make it truly bilingual. I mean, the sub-forum titles and all that stuff. The way it is now, see, "Board index » курилка » лицом к лицу"... it just sucks. Probably there is already an add-on or something.
A decent domain name (I guess you have a dozen or so up your sleeve, huh?) may also add some charm.

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Serge » Вт сен 22, 2009 9:12 pm

Separate domain name will separate community as well... Current community is pretty much interested in transfeerring their communication experience into bilingual environment... I am afraid if we try to split domains there will be no visitors.. Or it will take much longer time to get them there. There won't be any use of current domain force. Thus I have strong doubts on this.

As to Russian names of forums... Yeah that sucks. Maybe there is PHPBB mod for making it bilingual...
BTW as to current almost zero activity in the second English thread (in "Exchange.." forum) I think there is not many Englich visitors yet.. So the only count is onto Google. This is very much like a stat-up.
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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение ИСН » Вт сен 22, 2009 9:30 pm

Hell no! I was thinking of an alternative front-end under different name, but still wired to the same back-end, with the same database and users and everything.

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Serge » Вт сен 22, 2009 9:39 pm

ИСН писал(а):Hell no! I was thinking of an alternative front-end under different name, but still wired to the same back-end, with the same database and users and everything.
Well... Each and every page of forum contains Russian name of forum it belongs to as well as thread name..
Moreover most nicknames are in Russian....
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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Любитель_Манниха » Вт сен 22, 2009 9:54 pm

Wouldn't having the forum indexed by the search engines in English make it much more possible that (God forbid) smb from the publishers could 'discover' exchange :?
Я лично правами человека накушалась досыта. Некогда и мы,и ЦРУ,и США использовали эту идею как таран для уничтожения коммунистического режима и развала СССР. Эта идея отслужила свое,и хватит врать про права человека и про правозащитников. © Новодворская

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Serge » Вт сен 22, 2009 9:56 pm

Exchange is not being indexed... Or is supposed not to be in the future.
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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение ИСН » Вт сен 22, 2009 10:06 pm

Serge писал(а):Well... Each and every page of forum contains Russian name of forum it belongs to as well as thread name..
Moreover most nicknames are in Russian....
That's exactly why we need the "bilingual" mod in the first place.
As I see it: all the "thin" text pieces, including forum names, user names, user profiles and whatever else we find suitable, should exist in two variants and be shown either in Russian or in English depending on the environment, just as interface elements do. As to the bulk of the messages, each one should be flagged with the language where it belongs, to be displayed here and stay hidden there, or vice versa.

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Любитель_Манниха » Вт сен 22, 2009 10:20 pm

Serge писал(а):Exchange is not being indexed... Or is supposed not to be in the future.
I meant, if a large number of English-speaking chemists is attracted to the forum, some of them can enjoy communication but be fans of copyright, and upon discovering the exchange... :shuffle: maybe I'm being paranoic :lol:
Я лично правами человека накушалась досыта. Некогда и мы,и ЦРУ,и США использовали эту идею как таран для уничтожения коммунистического режима и развала СССР. Эта идея отслужила свое,и хватит врать про права человека и про правозащитников. © Новодворская

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Serge » Вт сен 22, 2009 11:41 pm

Don't get that nervous about exchange, ok? It's majorly my problem.
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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Ahha » Вт сен 22, 2009 11:49 pm

Yes, me too, I think that the administrators should think first of how to attract copyright lovers and only afterwards of how to keep them away.
Когда начинает изменять память, практики заводят записную книжку, а романтики садятся писать мемуары.

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Любитель_Манниха » Ср сен 23, 2009 12:03 am

Serge писал(а): It's majorly my problem.
That's why we're all anxious :) But no more worries, only optimism! :D
Current community is pretty much interested in transfeerring their communication experience into bilingual environment...
I guess that the Russian and ex-Soviet users (let's call them core users) with good English can be really bilingual, but most Europeans and Americans don't know Russian.
ИСН писал(а):all the "thin" text pieces, including forum names, user names, user profiles and whatever else we find suitable, should exist in two variants and be shown either in Russian or in English depending on the environment, just as interface elements do. As to the bulk of the messages, each one should be flagged with the language where it belongs, to be displayed here and stay hidden there, or vice versa.
Very reasonable :up:
Я лично правами человека накушалась досыта. Некогда и мы,и ЦРУ,и США использовали эту идею как таран для уничтожения коммунистического режима и развала СССР. Эта идея отслужила свое,и хватит врать про права человека и про правозащитников. © Новодворская

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Re: Level of English (survey)

Сообщение Serge » Ср сен 23, 2009 12:06 am

reasonable but time-consuming... we'll see what we can do
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